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Post by arcania on Sept 17, 2023 21:43:52 GMT -8
Probably should have read evegything before posting
I trust quill in being attacked. This clears them of headliner.
I think we should definitely vote. Yes, that person may be converted later. But at least narrow down who is headliner.
Regarding dating and stuff, here’s my suggestion: We share our N1 date targets + success or not. We do NOT share from N2 onwards. This way, we can narrow down a pool that contains the headliner. We proceed to vote in that group today.
Only problem I can think of is that if the majority had successful dates, then it will out the goth. But then reverse wise, it will also out the headliner. Iirc if headliner dies no more conversions happen (? Need to check), so by then goth isn’t needed.
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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 18, 2023 3:47:08 GMT -8
Regarding dating and stuff, here’s my suggestion: We share our N1 date targets + success or not. We do NOT share from N2 onwards. This way, we can narrow down a pool that contains the headliner. We proceed to vote in that group today. Only problem I can think of is that if the majority had successful dates, then it will out the goth. But then reverse wise, it will also out the headliner. Iirc if headliner dies no more conversions happen (? Need to check), so by then goth isn’t needed. The only issue I see with this is that it risks exposing other power roles, too. Our Goth isn’t the only role that might’ve decided to act instead of date last night. I can see why a Medium might’ve tried to contact the NPC, since that’s a Shiny New Mechanic, too. Or maybe if we have a very cautious Night Nurse, they might’ve tried to protect someone, too.
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Post by arcania on Sept 18, 2023 4:59:13 GMT -8
Regarding dating and stuff, here’s my suggestion: We share our N1 date targets + success or not. We do NOT share from N2 onwards. This way, we can narrow down a pool that contains the headliner. We proceed to vote in that group today. Only problem I can think of is that if the majority had successful dates, then it will out the goth. But then reverse wise, it will also out the headliner. Iirc if headliner dies no more conversions happen (? Need to check), so by then goth isn’t needed. The only issue I see with this is that it risks exposing other power roles, too. Our Goth isn’t the only role that might’ve decided to act instead of date last night. I can see why a Medium might’ve tried to contact the NPC, since that’s a Shiny New Mechanic, too. Or maybe if we have a very cautious Night Nurse, they might’ve tried to protect someone, too. Hmm… I guess one way to get around that is to lump all “unsuccessful dates” and “acted instead of dating” into the same reply. Therefore the headliner will not be able to tell whether someone was just rejected or doing sth else. Mainly because I can’t think of what to do otherwise l. We just randomly pick someone, vote them, and see what happens? I think we need to narrow down our search somehow, and this is the safest way I can think of so far
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Post by arcania on Sept 18, 2023 5:03:23 GMT -8
So like, everyone just say “had a date” or “didn’t have a date”. Don’t specify whether they were just unsuccessful or not dated in the first place.
We can then literally just vote/cop/shoot in that group. The sooner the headliner dies the better
If anyone else have better suggestions please throw it out.
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Post by jijeex on Sept 18, 2023 6:03:26 GMT -8
Ok but who wants to take up my offer for a midnight rendezvous. Anyone? The slot is Hella Open right now.
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Post by jijeex on Sept 18, 2023 6:04:02 GMT -8
I just want to date okay please let me date
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Post by eurby on Sept 18, 2023 6:07:45 GMT -8
ok so question. if headhunter converts a person and the metalhead chooses to kill that same person, does the conversion resolve first? (i believe u meant headliner instead of headhunter! lmk if i’m wrong since that changes the question slightly, tho not really the answer.) but yes, conversions by the headliner or A Date With Death events come before metalhead kills in the resolve order (everything does), so they’d successfully kill a vampire and retain their kill action.
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Post by 3ptali on Sept 18, 2023 6:31:52 GMT -8
oh yes sorry, meant headliner
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Post by 3ptali on Sept 18, 2023 6:41:07 GMT -8
i get <_> between similarly named roles r i p
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Post by beex on Sept 18, 2023 10:53:41 GMT -8
Is there any reason why we can't Not do that, and simply give more than a one-word descriptor...? Quil, Trip, Uber, and I have done so, at my count: Steex ("didn't do jack all", then focuses on Dating, Exclusively for all subsequent posts) Arca ("quiet night", then shifts to talking about wanting to say Who, which both trip and quil have mentioned is Dangerous) Aria ("quiet night on my end", then asks about What To Reveal--which, Fair--and never actually. Reveals Anything) Teru ("had a very pleasant night last night", then jumps on the dating train despite Quil being increasingly obvious about his failed conversion,) Stella ("had a lovely night last night", Also jumps on the dating train, a Very similar post to Teru tbh, maybe didn't refresh but hm.) very much Didn't. So uh, What's Up Guys??
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Post by jijeex on Sept 18, 2023 11:03:28 GMT -8
Nothing is up and that's the problem.
Beyond Quil's alleged Goth save we don't have a lot to go off of since, again, no blocks. Any concrete info that's actually useful for determining who's vamp and who isn't will almost certainly require someone to spill their night activity at minimum, so bets up on whether or not we want to do that as early as right now.
I'm not sure what to make of Arca's suggestion, like maybe I have brain poisoning from reinstalling LoL but I don't super get how laying out our dates now but not later will help us in the long run. If someone smarter than me can explain the pros and cons that would be fantastic.
Anyway listen up I'm so serious right now. Tonight I will be IN. My house. Waiting. I better hear some sick tunes outside my window okay. I will be INSIDE and all ears. Sing to me.
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Post by stellamalke on Sept 18, 2023 11:21:39 GMT -8
Is there any reason why we can't Not do that, and simply give more than a one-word descriptor...? Quil, Trip, Uber, and I have done so, at my count: Steex ("didn't do jack all", then focuses on Dating, Exclusively for all subsequent posts) Arca ("quiet night", then shifts to talking about wanting to say Who, which both trip and quil have mentioned is Dangerous) Aria ("quiet night on my end", then asks about What To Reveal--which, Fair--and never actually. Reveals Anything) Teru ("had a very pleasant night last night", then jumps on the dating train despite Quil being increasingly obvious about his failed conversion,) Stella ("had a lovely night last night", Also jumps on the dating train, a Very similar post to Teru tbh, maybe didn't refresh but hm.) very much Didn't. So uh, What's Up Guys?? Bee, I'm sorry but I'm really struggling hard to understand what you're saying here.
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Post by beex on Sept 18, 2023 11:32:49 GMT -8
Am I missing something here? The Goth save Was The Block. It was the Only block that Could Have Happened, given that the Headliner went for a Conversion and not a Kill, which would have fallen to a theoretical Night Nurse, but that isn't what seems to have happened. Quil came in right off the bat with the report, at first obfuscating it a bit but then outright saying it when folx weren't picking it up. I don't have any good reason to Not believe him, given that a conversion N1 makes The Most Sense Out Of Anything, imo, for the Headliner. And rollover would have Explicitly Said if there was a Successful Conversion, so he (right now,) is a Bone Fide Human. Given that we only have the One Vamp, there can't Be any more block reports, but that doesn't mean that we can't......Say Anything?? I'd just uhhhh like to get some conversation going so that we have Something to base a vote off of cause right now the majority of everyone is playing it Real close to the chest, which is?? the most and super beneficial to the Headliner, and Not Town, afaik??
I'm not asking anyone to Read Their Diary To Us In Its Entirety, and obv this is a game where we Tell Untruths, either for malicious or benign reasons, but for us to have Anything to start working off of, we first need to Say Something, and I don't think that's a bonkers request from me? I also don't really see the benefit to saying Who n1, bc if we take the precaution mentioned, as Quil already said, the Headliner will just lump themself in with the 'went out' party, but it's always possible I could have just missed the point there.
Also Steex this is a weird 180 from you compared to last game where you were 100000% Leading The Charge with finding topics of discussion when we were doing the weenie not wanting to talk thing that we're doing right now, seems ooc to me for u to throw up ur hands and go "Welp Nothing More To Be Done, So Anyway"
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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 18, 2023 12:18:07 GMT -8
Well. We do have only checks watch 9? Hours?? Until rollover??? (Don’t expect me to do accurate math after the Wild day we’ve had at work lmao, I’ll have to tell y’all about it on discord.)
So I’ll just go out on a limb and submit a bit of info from my night. Like Bee said, I’m not comfortable reading my entire diary, but I am willing to say I did NOT have successful date last night.
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Post by Otisander on Sept 18, 2023 12:35:42 GMT -8
At work right now, so this will be a quickie:
Looking at the flavor given in your N1 PM, does anybody at all believe and/or suspect that there was Wingman/'Lucky In Love' interference with their dating? (Obviously for the people who have explicitly reported Failure with Dating, the answer is a No, so they don't have to say it)
Because if not, I believe we have at least two more people who are confirmably in the clear for Today's voting. For what it's worth, I'd also say that Trip and Bee are in the clear right now based off what they've been saying and doing on thread so far.
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