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Post by arcania on Sept 17, 2023 2:55:10 GMT -8
Quiet night.
I think vampire 99% tried to convert and failed. There is no reason to kill/date instead, because with only 1 vampire, there’s a chance they could lose immediately today if we somehow managed to vote them out today.
Dating can wait till the night they upgrade. Killing nowhere gives as much advantage than converting.
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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 17, 2023 5:37:14 GMT -8
Quiet night on my end!
Quick Q for the group: is there any reason to play Date Shenanigans close to the chest?
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Post by Otisander on Sept 17, 2023 6:59:01 GMT -8
Quiet night on my end! Quick Q for the group: is there any reason to play Date Shenanigans close to the chest? Whether or not a person you visited was Able to be visited that Night could be used by the Headliner to narrow down who has what role. It could also be a potential risk if you get a high bond with one player in particular as that may make the Headliner convert one of you for the sake of having a dangerous event be triggered against the other player the next time you successfully Date. Thus, there's less risk in reporting whether or not your dating adventures were fruitful if you do not name names, in addition to it being safer if there was at least one other date that happened that Night (just because if Only Two people report a successful meeting, then that makes it obvious that those two met with each other even if they keep things anonymous in their report).
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Post by terucarus on Sept 17, 2023 7:32:26 GMT -8
good morning, everyone!
I had a very pleasant night last night.
i dont have much to add to the conversation at this exact moment--i literally IRL just woke up--so give me a few moments to read through the thread again and give some thoughts
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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 17, 2023 7:43:07 GMT -8
Quiet night on my end! Quick Q for the group: is there any reason to play Date Shenanigans close to the chest? Whether or not a person you visited was Able to be visited that Night could be used by the Headliner to narrow down who has what role. It could also be a potential risk if you get a high bond with one player in particular as that may make the Headliner convert one of you for the sake of having a dangerous event be triggered against the other player the next time you successfully Date. Thus, there's less risk in reporting whether or not your dating adventures were fruitful if you do not name names, in addition to it being safer if there was at least one other date that happened that Night (just because if Only Two people report a successful meeting, then that makes it obvious that those two met with each other even if they keep things anonymous in their report). Gotcha, thank you!
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Post by 3ptali on Sept 17, 2023 10:08:35 GMT -8
re: exposing our own dating shenanigans
i think it's safe-ish to detail how your own night went! if you want to. but not to mention who you visited, or flavor that you got. otherwise i wouldn't have thrown mine in there))
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Post by 3ptali on Sept 17, 2023 10:11:25 GMT -8
ok hey wait if lynching is not deadly to town, what if we just. Voted. today. once everyone's checked in 👀
edit: reason being, if there's no danger to town & there was no conversion, that means if we hit our vamp today we'd be golden
unless yall feel differently, or would rather give vamp time to play/get a feel for the game a lil more?
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Post by 3ptali on Sept 17, 2023 10:15:01 GMT -8
if a conversion attempt was made, then vamp only has the option to kill or date tonight 🤔
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Post by terucarus on Sept 17, 2023 12:08:46 GMT -8
okay, i am more awake now and ready to party
as far as what i suspect happened last night, i'm honestly reading what steex put down. we've all really wanted dating to come back and if the Headliner was one of us who was biting at the bit to date--well, why not do it on n1?
i wouldn't be surprised if some of our group were like, 'nah, dating isnt for me'--completely understand. they have their reasons and thats, well. that.
re: voting iirc, its actively being encouraged this game to vote bc we cant mislynch. so, YES. we absolutely should vote today--but i would love to hear from uber and taylor, since they are the only two who haven't yet checked in iirc
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Post by stellamalke on Sept 17, 2023 12:35:10 GMT -8
Morning all! I had a lovely night last night. No spookies, no scaries, no bumps in the night, and certainly nothing with fangs, claws, or wings.
I'm going to generally agree with what's being said so far about the vampire in our midst choosing to date last night. I do remember that the last time we had a dating game, I was found out because everyone realized no one had been on a date with me and I was out every time. Dating would be a really good way for the vampire to develop an alibi should we start to look in their direction.
Additionally, if I read the rules correctly, a vampire only needs +2 bond to convert, right?
No doubt a vampire is working their way to converting before killing.
Editing because I misremembered the fundamental change of this gAme!! We're not voting to kill, just to examine! Please continue.
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Post by jijeex on Sept 17, 2023 12:48:19 GMT -8
Re: voting today, it's worth keeping in mind that because of the no mislynch clause, voting here very much has the effect of speculating someone's town role - except instead of speculating, you'd outright confirm it with the vote.
We know what happens when you give up someone with a role to the opposing side. This is the one time I'd rather be a little more cautious about voting since it has a very high chance of outing someone. We're better off putting it to use after a couple conversions have happened.
Until blocks (or lack of them) are confirmed, why don't we think of some ways we can help narrow down voting candidates in the future? Like has been said, sharing your dating attempt seems innocuous enough as long as you don't reveal your target so as to not allow others to speculate on their availability at night.
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Post by eurby on Sept 17, 2023 12:58:05 GMT -8
Additionally, if I read the rules correctly, a vampire only needs +2 bond to convert, right? correct! but i’d also like to remind yall, the event cannot be triggered at a normal window date. in order for any vampire to trigger the convert-or-kill event (referred to from this point as A Date With Death), they need a face-to-face meeting with a townsperson with whom they have at least +2 bond (including the +1 bond they get immediately upon meeting).
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Post by 3ptali on Sept 17, 2023 13:09:04 GMT -8
if we vote someone & they flip town, so we get their role? or do we just get "this person is town"?
edit: also, do neutrals / miller show as neutral? or would miller show as vamp?
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Post by mom on Sept 17, 2023 13:31:23 GMT -8
if we vote someone & they flip town, so we get their role? or do we just get "this person is town"? edit: also, do neutrals / miller show as neutral? or would miller show as vamp? Eyyy Reposting the Voting Section of the Mechanics Post for Clarity's Sake:"Instead of a traditional vote to lynch a player during the day, the public vote is for which player to Inspect. If a majority votes a player, their alignment and role will be revealed. If they're a vampire, they'll be killed upon reveal; however, if they're townsfolk/neutral, they're safe from the mob. Due to the power conversion holds (robbing the town of a member while gaining a vampire is essentially a double kill), the town is immune to mislynches. However, a townie's proven innocence may not hold true as the game goes on, and the town should still take caution before potentially revealing their power roles to hungry creatures of the night." Everyone's roles show up in full. Alignment + Specific Role. Poser is revealed as a poser, not a vamp. The vamp flavor for poser only applies to night shenanigans, not day votes.
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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 17, 2023 14:33:18 GMT -8
Until blocks (or lack of them) are confirmed, why don't we think of some ways we can help narrow down voting candidates in the future? Like has been said, sharing your dating attempt seems innocuous enough as long as you don't reveal your target so as to not allow others to speculate on their availability at night. I like this idea, but how should people go about it without revealing that they received a date? Because if, for example, 6 people said they tried to date, and 3 people said they did not attempt a date, and then there were three successful dates, then we know those 3 Received a date. Which would put us back at the conundrum of “avoid making date targets into Vamp targets.” Are we only revealing when a successful date occurred?
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