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Post by arcania on Sept 18, 2023 22:23:03 GMT -8
Btw, I said only sharing dates TODAY and NOT BEYOND.
This is to avoid outing more power roles through date patterns. E.g. if someone never had a sucesssful date, it will be very obvious to the mafia that they’re a power role.
But only one night? Especially when there is zero date coordination + some power roles might not have moved? It’ll be a wilder guess
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Post by Otisander on Sept 18, 2023 22:34:29 GMT -8
My main concern with it was that, say, if a Townsperson says the visited 'Player X', then anyone who Wasn't this 'Player X' could just go 'oh, well that explains why you weren't home when I visited', or something to that effect, and I'm pretty sure we already had only successful date get reported, so there's only three people hardcleared of being Headliner right now and saying who you visited isn't a super accurate way to actually catch N1 nondaters like the Headliner. Not to say that I think Date discussion and all is entirely useless, but that it would be most effective if used to double check a specific suspect or two rather than to just have Everyone disclose everything all at once, if that makes sense. Which, speaking of: Because I feel pretty damn good about Teru, Taylor, Trip and Bee right now, and I feel like. Plausible good?? About Arca and Steex right now... Ariyeli and Chrysuberths, I'm Curious. What was the name of the street you went to Last Night, if you were given this information?(I only want the Street's Name and nothing more, and I just want to hear this from you two right now)
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Post by jijeex on Sept 18, 2023 22:37:52 GMT -8
I'll be real with you chief, loving this aggressive driver's seat energy esp since I gave it up because I wanted to relax a little more this game.
It's not that I don't care to find the Headliner. Privately I'm filing a list on who Definitely Isn't Headliner based on what I can infer from the thread, but to do so I needed to draw conclusions that are either damning or revealing. It's likely the same for everyone else, so my question is how willing are you to put what is, based on current numbers, more likely to be an innocent on the spotlight?
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Post by Otisander on Sept 18, 2023 22:47:18 GMT -8
I mean, almost every game we have we're most likely to put an innocent on the spotlight based on Numbers, so Ready As I'll Ever Be, I suppose. I'm also not calling these shots blindly and am asking the question as a soft check of sorts more than anything. I don't think it's something inherently Damning/Revealing, but it could definitely make for a solid "You're going the wrong way!", that is just as important to be heard as a "This is the right track!", in my opinion.
Like, if I've falsely townread somebody and am thus letting the Headliner off the hook to some capacity, I'd like to know that sooner as opposed to later.
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Post by jijeex on Sept 18, 2023 22:57:25 GMT -8
Dawg you ninja'd me that post was for Arca. But I see your point lmao. Re: your questioning of Aria and Uber tho, I will say I think a sus on Uber isn't warranted right now. Like bets up on Aria (tho I understand that she's currently in the trenches irl) but I don't think Uber is the Headliner.
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Post by Otisander on Sept 18, 2023 23:17:31 GMT -8
Ooh, gotcha gotcha. I will say, I'm not even really Sussing either of them myself, I just have Townreads or otherwise Near Townreads on everyone else, so. There's not really any other places to catch my eye as to leads until any of those beliefs actually get Shaken.
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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 18, 2023 23:43:07 GMT -8
Aria and Uber, I'm Curious. What was the name of the street you went to Last Night, if you were given this information?(I only want the Street's Name and nothing more, and I just want to hear this from you two right now) I…question this strategy? Maybe IRL stress is getting to me and I’m missing something, but wouldn’t this just be the same as revealing what I did/who I dated in the long run? I assumed everyone lives on different streets? I mean, for the sake of transparency, I visited Wick Road. I’m just not sure if this is a viable long-term Strat?
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Post by Otisander on Sept 19, 2023 0:01:47 GMT -8
Aria and Uber, I'm Curious. What was the name of the street you went to Last Night, if you were given this information?(I only want the Street's Name and nothing more, and I just want to hear this from you two right now) I…question this strategy? Maybe IRL stress is getting to me and I’m missing something, but wouldn’t this just be the same as revealing what I did/who I dated in the long run? I assumed everyone lives on different streets? I mean, for the sake of transparency, I visited Wick Road. I’m just not sure if this is a viable long-term Strat? It's like. Slightly less easy to trick than just Saying Names Of Who You Dated/Tried Dating from what I've thought of, and gives the Headliner less potential to work with if they only know of the street names people went to (and only know what streets a Handful of people went to, as opposed to just Everybody), as in order for that to be Useful to them, they would have to actually snoop around to find that street for themselves to make the connection of what that means. edit: Especially because there's more than one way for other Townspeople to be able to corroborate street names from what I've gathered, so that helps in keeping the Headliner in the dark while still guiding Town, yanno?
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Post by arcania on Sept 19, 2023 0:07:15 GMT -8
I never said you share WHO you visited.
My start from start to now as always been, say you either 1) have a successful date 2) Others
Nothing more. Nothing less. You don’t have to share “I tried to date x but failed.” Because the headliner will also try to fake an unsuccessful date. Power roles will fake an unsuccessful date. There is no use in sharing your unsuccessful date targets .
The only reason for sharing unsuccessful date targets is to catch inconsistency —> hope that headliner says someone that was available. And then bam they’re outed. …actually, this does sounds nice.
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Post by arcania on Sept 19, 2023 0:12:42 GMT -8
I'll be real with you chief, loving this aggressive driver's seat energy esp since I gave it up because I wanted to relax a little more this game. It's not that I don't care to find the Headliner. Privately I'm filing a list on who Definitely Isn't Headliner based on what I can infer from the thread, but to do so I needed to draw conclusions that are either damning or revealing. It's likely the same for everyone else, so my question is how willing are you to put what is, based on current numbers, more likely to be an innocent on the spotlight? I’m not sure I really understand what your post mean. To me, towns strength is in numbers. If by losing a few we can catch all the mafia, it doesn’t matter to me. Also tbh even if we nornsmlly scumhunt, we’ll still always been putting people (that are usually town) on spotlight anyways
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Post by jijeex on Sept 19, 2023 1:21:56 GMT -8
To me, towns strength is in numbers. If by losing a few we can catch all the mafia, it doesn’t matter to me. It... matters a little more than usual this game. Because unlike usual games, losing town isn't a -1 town +0 maf. It's -1 town +1 maf.
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Post by arcania on Sept 19, 2023 2:04:03 GMT -8
To me, towns strength is in numbers. If by losing a few we can catch all the mafia, it doesn’t matter to me. It... matters a little more than usual this game. Because unlike usual games, losing town isn't a -1 town +0 maf. It's -1 town +1 maf. Wdym?.? yes that’s the case in conversion, but if we eliminate a town wrongly, they don’t die right? At least that’s what I remember from the rules And if mafia wants to rid us off a confirmed town they even have to move to kill them instead.
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Post by jijeex on Sept 19, 2023 2:25:22 GMT -8
Wdym?.? yes that’s the case in conversion, but if we eliminate a town wrongly, they don’t die right? At least that’s what I remember from the rules And if mafia wants to rid us off a confirmed town they even have to move to kill them instead. We literally can't mislynch. The vote doesn't kill someone, the vote inspects their role and alignment. All you'll do is out a townie, possibly a power role, and incentivize the Headliner to convert them on top of putting undue pressure on the Goth.
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Post by arcania on Sept 19, 2023 2:55:58 GMT -8
Wdym?.? yes that’s the case in conversion, but if we eliminate a town wrongly, they don’t die right? At least that’s what I remember from the rules And if mafia wants to rid us off a confirmed town they even have to move to kill them instead. We literally can't mislynch. The vote doesn't kill someone, the vote inspects their role and alignment. All you'll do is out a townie, possibly a power role, and incentivize the Headliner to convert them on top of putting undue pressure on the Goth. Genuinely, how do you intend to win the game otherwise? If anything, not killing the townie is a major advantage. In normal circumstances, we -1 town every time we vote wrong. It outs + kill the townie on top of that. In here, the mafia literally have to go and kill this outted town. In fact, this mechanic means we CAN mislynch. Mis voting now is better than mis voting later — we have more ppl now so we have the number to screw up. Unless you have a way to always vote scum and end the game now. Forgot to add: if the goth just targets our most recent vote target, the worry is solved lol. Obviously it lies in the goth doing stuff. But I don’t see a better thing to do right now.
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Post by arcania on Sept 19, 2023 2:57:49 GMT -8
I feel like we’re all going in circles.
What does everyone want to do? Just find someone suspicious and vote them off, see what happens?
If someone suggests not voting, I am voting them first btw.
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