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Post by jijeex on Sept 23, 2023 23:23:35 GMT -8
I mean ultimately all I've done is put forth an argument for why I think capping the game off with nothing new happening is a waste. If everyone else disagrees and want to weed the Headliner out pronto realistically there's nothing I can do about it but sit here and lament my continued lack of excitement in between night reports and disputing discrepancies.
The fact that some people are hesitating at all just means they've thought about it and agree to a point. I simply happen to feel strongly enough about it to push.
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Post by Aremypocalypse on Sept 23, 2023 23:47:34 GMT -8
Hmm, I personally don't see it quite as that much waiting in the wings? Because as it stands, if we vote here then we are either aiming for the vampire, or aiming to "clear" one town (barring conversion) but also increase the chances that the vampire will figure out who the goth/other PRs are, right? The latter is still a major risk that I think it would be nice to avoid if possible for now, while we can still get a bit more concrete info out of dating, especially if we nudge things along a touch!!!! if people don't want to do that though, that's cool too; is simply an opportunity that I hope people will consider!!
Anyways, here's a couple of hypothetical questions to everyone: 1. If you were to vote someone aiming for the vampire, who would you vote? 2. if you were to vote someone aiming for a town that you wish to clear, who would you vote? My answers would be Uber for vampire and Aria for town, respectively! Granted, Uber is partially because I'm still rethinking over what Quill said earlier, though I could easily be mistakenly clearing Trip here for instance!!' Edit: arguably, my stance of getting more dating hype/info may be influenced by only being in the game for a few hours, so it feels like we've just started versus everyone else who's been here for a week already!!!!
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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 24, 2023 8:00:52 GMT -8
For other things though, I would also like to hear more from Aria and Uber if possible, but I'd like to make a gentle reminder that Aria was asked to give a little more info on her N2 by Taylor (Aria already provided that her Night was 'unfortunately quiet', but I didn't see anything else about it brought up), and Trip asked if her questioning of if people could share the same street as each other was prompted by something or just spontaneous, which didn't get answered either (although I can't exactly fault her for not answering either yet, as things had been happening both for her IRL with handling the Sickness and Responsibilities as well things on thread going onto a whole new topic and potentially burying/distracting from Trip's question). Tbh I 100% forgot about these questions lol. Iirc, they came up when I was away from thread, so they got drowned out in the firehose of info I was trying to take in. To answer Stella’s question: I pretty much made my way to the home of whomever I was visiting. There was some mention of some interesting gardening choices. I played my lil lyre but no one was in. Then I made my way home feeling forever alone. To answer Trip’s question: For some reason at the time, I thought I’d remembered Quil saying Uber had visited the street he lived on, but now I can’t find that? So idk maybe I made that up?? But anyway, I was confused why Uber was clear despite stating they visited Quil’s street, but I was still sus when I visited a totally different street. But it seems like I probably misremembered or misread anyway so /shrug
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Post by Otisander on Sept 24, 2023 8:27:48 GMT -8
I see, I see. Honestly, in my book it would read as less suspicious to willingly place oneself 'at the scene of the crime' than to say any other street name (as one could have just Made Up a street that didn't actually exist, and nobody would be able to disprove that until much later on due to how minimally street names would be claimed on thread, or could have simply said their own street's name and played that off as trying to hide as a power role). So even if Uber had visited my own street, it's not quite as damning in my eyes as one might think.
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Post by eurby on Sept 24, 2023 8:31:32 GMT -8
hi yall!ONE MORE LIL NOTE FROM THE GODSin regards to the current discussion of should-we shouldn't-we when it comes to hunting down the vampire: please don't worry, and play to your wincon! my only two fears in the game ending earlier than we'd expected were these: (1) that it may feel like an anticlimactic end to the world addy has been cookin up a storm for, and (2) that yall may come away from this experiment thinking it's not worth trying again. for the first, our grand chef has assured me that she'd much rather yall not twiddle your thumbs on her account, and that no matter what, we're gonna be served a feast. and two, as long as yall are willing to play more vampires games, i Will be running em!! i've been waiting to run this variant for literally over 5 years! plus there are a bunch of different balancing variations we ought to try. so as long as yall are willing to try again (not immediately, addy's game is up next!!), then that's both of my fears put to rest. anyway! just focus on playing in a way that you find the most FUN. be silly. put your monocles on, be lil sherlock holmeses. go find the vampire, we'll handle the rest. they're a threat to u and everything u hold dear in this lil ol record shop, after all
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Post by jijeex on Sept 24, 2023 9:03:24 GMT -8
Idk if I was the only person to vocalize that I don't think Uber is sus (though I'm not blind and I certainly do not, in any way, mean they're Clear clear) but the reason why I thought so was because they were enthusiastically pressing like on every single post I made about dating. This is embarrassing to admit but I will take the L and just say it: I thought a Headliner would be far more concerned about the sad state of their numbers than go on a date with me - something that ultimately ended up not happening so goes to show how much negative rizz I have.
In that regard it's not that you're particularly more sus than Uber, it's just that I don't have much reads on you beyond "busy person irl trying their best to remain in pace with the discussion". I'm also not? getting this townie read everyone has on 3p? But messed up susdar etc etc this is nothing new for me. Could very well have missed something.
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Post by beex on Sept 24, 2023 9:07:57 GMT -8
I see, I see. Honestly, in my book it would read as less suspicious to willingly place oneself 'at the scene of the crime' than to say any other street name (as one could have just Made Up a street that didn't actually exist, and nobody would be able to disprove that until much later on due to how minimally street names would be claimed on thread, or could have simply said their own street's name and played that off as trying to hide as a power role). So even if Uber had visited my own street, it's not quite as damning in my eyes as one might think. See I have also been thinking a lot about this!! (this get-along sweater we're in is so cozy we just decided to live here lmfao) My first thought was very similar to yours, and I still half-agree, but there is another element of timing and circumstance that has very much been on my mind with this larger set of data.
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Post by Otisander on Sept 24, 2023 9:15:31 GMT -8
Oh, it would Absolutely be worth trying again imo! The more gamemodes the merrier and I've been Seeing Vampires Variant in the Role Bible for about 5 years and going almost every time I see it hsbsnsma Without further ado, I shall now answer Ara's general questions before I head out for work. 1. If you were to vote someone aiming for the Vampire, who would you vote? I've been mulling over it and tbqh I am Still Mulling. In my Brain, I am convinced that it's down to Uber and Aria – though I'm not sus on Aria for being 'quiet' (this type of thing makes players harder to read as Town for me, which is why I haven't made a case for her to be Removed from the pool, but doesn't really set off any particular alarm bells; in fact, she's done a very good job at keeping her like, Thread Prescence/Vibe consistent with what I know of her Town one). I've got my own reason that I've been sitting on. Waiting for the time to reveal it. 2. If you were to vote someone aiming for a Town you wish to clear, who would you vote? Easier answer: Ara. Her slot & herself have already claimed a role, so it's no new information being given to the Headliner and nothing Extra that would complicate things for our Goth, and she's voiced explicit consent in herself being Inspected for that reason than in Town deciding to Abstain from voting. If not Ara, I guess technically Trip? Just because he's kinda just got Good Vibes in his corner and not much else, but idk. I feel like it'd be better to have him cleared with Date activity than to Inspect him for that, just to err on the side of caution. Speaking of, I can Actually visit you Tonight if you'd like.
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Post by Aremypocalypse on Sept 24, 2023 10:05:54 GMT -8
Regarding my townread on 3p, a major reason for me is because they were the first to pull out that Taylor/teru were clear; they could have let that sit and possibly allowed suspicion to continue for who knows how many days!! That being said, arguably anyone keeping track of all claims could have said something like that, so... do you think that's something that would have stayed hidden for a while? Question to anyone who wants to answer!!
Arguably, it's not that hard of a read in the end and perhaps I'm being suckered in by them saying they'd put in work to keep track of stuff; I'd put them third on my suspicion list, but currently where I'm at!!!!
Additional note: I guess I should have expected people to just put me, for the second question... ideally say someone else who isn't me as I'm the easy safe choice!!
3p would certainly be a solid choice if we want to clear someone as town, considering there's suspicion there and they're not fully cleared!!! Curious as to your thoughts on if you'd be down for that, 3p?
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Post by stellamalke on Sept 24, 2023 11:08:44 GMT -8
Theoretically, though, why wouldn't the headliner be the first to come out with a conclusion that temporarily town clears someone or a few someones? That strategy would then help give the illusion that the headliner is really just a helpful townie.
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Post by stellamalke on Sept 24, 2023 11:10:48 GMT -8
Also call me sympathetic for the devil, but I really don't have much interest in ending this game just get. No one's dead, no one's been converted, and we haven't seen coven mechanics yet.
Hot take - let's go for some chaos. Let's let our headliner convert and then go tits-out-aggro tomorrow.
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Post by beex on Sept 24, 2023 11:13:36 GMT -8
Wrt Ara's questions, I'm gonna hit 'em in reverse order:
2. If you were to vote someone aiming for a Town you wish to clear, who would you vote? I Wouldn't. There is obvs no reason for u to know this about me, but I am against claiming Pretty Much Across The Board, unless it's a very specific circumstance &/or basically in the endgame. This is ofc a personal position but I simply would not vote for someone with the intention of clearing them when it would wind up being a verified claim, I would vote for someone I legitimately thought was my opponent, or abstain. My agreement to vote for you earlier was based on the specific situation of Not Wanting To Make It Unfun For Anyone, and not at all reflective of my feelings.
1. If you were to vote someone aiming for the Vampire, who would you vote? So, working down the list:
Myself/Quil/Teru/Stella are all hard-cleared, as we Know there is a Goth and they have precisely 0 reason to allow a fakesave claim to stand, and T&S had eyeballs on each other while vamp was vampin'.
Ara/Steex/Uber are all in the same category for me as 'not clear, but unlikely'. None of their claims are verifiable, unlike the previous category--we don't Know that we have a Hookup, and flavor can be faked--but they would all be Pretty Big Kahunas of a lie, and ones that have a high likelihood of blowing up in their faces in various ways. Possible? Yes, absolutely. But not my first or highest priority. They have also (referring to Steex n Uber here, bc Ara has been in the game for 3 seconds so I couldn't possibly make any remarks about her lmao) been acting in ways that feel consistent and reasonable to me, despite my early sus on Steex which I am chalking up more to 'residual from last game' than anything else. This is the category that I would prefer to clear by dating, as Quil put it.
Which leaves Aria/Trip. It cannot be denied that under the circumstances, there is nothing clearing her and that Aria's lookin' a bit iffy, but I personally do not Feel that she is sus. She's borne up well under some questioning and scrutiny, tried to offer some things to town when asked despite not having much to go off of, and while she's been a lil quiet she was upfront on-thread and in discord about it, and tbh hasn't been any quieter than several other folks that aren't getting sussed half so hard--most notably, Trip included.
Trip is in basically the exact same position as Aria wrt credibility, but is skating by on Vibes. And listen, the vibes also got me initially! Trip has astoundingly Good Egg Energy, love that lil guy. But little things have been pinging me more and more as time has gone on. Teru's gut, an unsolicited street claim, conspicuously staying out of it on-thread when shit is hitting the fan, post quantity but moreso content--it is Absolutely a false positive to say that Trip's clarifying Uber's brief Stella sus and offering to collate night reports is (at least To Me!) any indication whatsoever of towniness. Why? Well, Trip knows For Sure And Certain that there was No Way that Quil or I, at a minimum, but probably also Steex, would let the Impossible Stella Sus stand for longer than it took us to put eyes on the thread, so him being inb4 was just a quirk of time. And putting together a list of night actions? Again, a very low-risk high-reward offer--it doesn't give us Any information we didn't already have freely available (nor, would I say, was anyone particularly expressing confusion about What Happened What Night, so it's not even like it would really go Leaps And Bounds to clear up anything or move convo forward) but it looks very good and helpful. I've been waitin' and watchin' but it's lookin' stinkier and stinkier to me, chief. mmmwhatchasay.mp3
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Post by jijeex on Sept 24, 2023 11:50:38 GMT -8
As answers to Ara's questions:
1. I would Not vote for someone if only to confirm they're town. I was willing to vote for Arca, our supposed hookup, but it was mainly because I wasn't sold and thought a precise confirmation will do us good in dispelling doubts. Cross another name off the list and all that.
2. I ammmmm tentatively shifting over the spot for Arca/Ara in my sussy baka trio for Uber, which would narrow down my picks to either Uber, 3p, or Aria. No order in particular other than that Uber seems least likely to be HL for me - but no clear is no clear, so.
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Post by Chrysuberths on Sept 24, 2023 12:11:38 GMT -8
they were enthusiastically pressing like on every single post I made about dating. I may have decided not to visit you because I couldn't come up with a song or literally anything to say difhehdjsbs I'm sorry Anyways, back on to potentially answering some questions about me and being headliner for Ara (also, hello! v nice to see a new person I hope you have fun, sorry for the almost bad position you were in) I agree with Quil, and I know this is kinda dumb and obviously something a vamp would do because easy out, but I wouldn't lie about staying home with next to no other reports in. Ngl I'm not the most confident player when it comes to making plays, and while that is something I'm trying to change, if I was solo headliner not only would I be sobbing in the corner because of the goth, but I would never even try to claim I stayed home if i didn't when I could not be certain myself I wasn't visited while out. Because I'm an anxious mess and would only be able to focus on how badly that could go lmao. I'm gonna answer the two newest questions because my tired brain can think of actual english sentences for them better than the ones I have from previous posts (plus, these two just hit everything nicer with less questions..) 1. Aria. I'm sorry but I think you accidentally revealed too much information here because I was on the edge of my seat the whole time after I revealed where I went day 1 to see if anyone even gave a hint that casket ave was there street and I didn't see anything from Quil regarding where they lived. I'm totally willing to discuss why further but right now you knowing who lived on that street strikes me as bad. It's totally possible you visited casket ave last night, but if I'm forced to choose someone today it'd be you. 2. It'd either be you Ara or potentially steex. Mind you this is if it was a forced decision 100%, because I feel confident steex is not headliner, and I'm tentatively believing the medium claim from you/arca because of how you're playing right now. Preferably I wouldn't vote anyone to clear them, but because as of now you two are the only ones that I'm confident aren't the vamp and can't be cleared via night mechanics, you are my two if I had to choose. I'm totally willing to go more into my night 1 adventure if you'd guys like, i think you'll find that my escapades n1 totally justify the meme sign n2
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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 24, 2023 14:06:25 GMT -8
1. Aria. I'm sorry but I think you accidentally revealed too much information here because I was on the edge of my seat the whole time after I revealed where I went day 1 to see if anyone even gave a hint that casket ave was there street and I didn't see anything from Quil regarding where they lived. I'm totally willing to discuss why further but right now you knowing who lived on that street strikes me as bad. It's totally possible you visited casket ave last night, but if I'm forced to choose someone today it'd be you. 2. It'd either be you Ara or potentially steex. Mind you this is if it was a forced decision 100%, because I feel confident steex is not headliner, and I'm tentatively believing the medium claim from you/arca because of how you're playing right now. Preferably I wouldn't vote anyone to clear them, but because as of now you two are the only ones that I'm confident aren't the vamp and can't be cleared via night mechanics, you are my two if I had to choose. I'm totally willing to go more into my night 1 adventure if you'd guys like, i think you'll find that my escapades n1 totally justify the meme sign n2 Lol now it looks like it’s your turn to misread/misremember. I didn’t say I knew where Quil lived. I said I thought I remembered Quil saying where they lived. Which…I think is a valid mistake to make? They asked two people (you and I) which street we visited. And I doubt I’m the only who gets the Quil Walls all jumbled up in my head?? I’m sure my brain strung together a bunch of words that came together as “Quil Lives on the Street Uber Visited.” But I all but stated I’d realized I was wrong. I’ll answer Ara’s Qs in a bit, I just got home and I also have homework due tonight✨
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