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Post by beex on Sept 24, 2023 14:20:38 GMT -8
1. Aria. I'm sorry but I think you accidentally revealed too much information here because I was on the edge of my seat the whole time after I revealed where I went day 1 to see if anyone even gave a hint that casket ave was their street and I didn't see anything from Quil regarding where they lived. I'm totally willing to discuss why further but right now you knowing who lived on that street strikes me as bad. It's totally possible you visited casket ave last night, but if I'm forced to choose someone today it'd be you. What Aria said: For some reason at the time, I thought I’d remembered Quil saying Uber had visited the street he lived on, but now I can’t find that? So idk maybe I made that up?? [...] But it seems like I probably misremembered or misread anyway so /shrug She isn't claiming that knowledge is hers or came from herself, just that she thought she saw/remembered seeing it somewhere on thread, but then disclaimed that it was likely a misinterpretation of trying to catch up with however many pages of discussion all at once. At least, that's how I interpreted this--Aria, you can ofc correct me if I'm wrong--and I suppose it could be some sort of cheeky maneuver, but Aria's generally pretty careful with things like that, and lord only knows I've also been absolutely convinced I remembered reading something, only to discover that I'd dreamed or hallucinated it or w/e lmao
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Post by Aremypocalypse on Sept 24, 2023 14:38:28 GMT -8
Theoretically, though, why wouldn't the headliner be the first to come out with a conclusion that temporarily town clears someone or a few someones? That strategy would then help give the illusion that the headliner is really just a helpful townie. My thoughts are basically that clearing two people narrowed down the pool to approximately 3 people (including myself) and like... that's a lot, especially if people were planning to try and vote the vampire off today!!! That being said, I see that people in general about pretty chill/not steamrolling the vampire, so arguably that (plus what Bee said) is a fair argument for not clearing Trip!!
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Post by Otisander on Sept 24, 2023 14:45:38 GMT -8
Cat's out of the bag now it seems, so just to keep it clear: I do, in fact, live on Casket Ave! This means that both Uber and Trip claimed to have been visiting Me on N1.
But in other, more important news: I have now officially Waffled, and would actually be much more confident in voting out Trip Today in order to get the Headliner out. Why the change of stance? Glad I asked–
Last Night, I actually managed to see Wick Road for myself, though I tried playing dumb about it for a bit to see if I could bait Aria into saying she tried to visit me (a plan I'm abandoning now because of her mention of 'interesting gardening choices', when I live in an apartment building and thus as far as I would know, wouldn't have any/much control over the outside grounds if there even is a garden space out there). Knowing that Aria answered my D1 question with her own street though is in and of itself inconclusive (hence the attempt to bait her into claiming to have targeted me, as that'd be a fairly easy out for a Headliner to take), but this made me suspect that there was Something up, at the very least.
In finding out that there was Something going on with Aria, and that Uber & Trip had both claimed having gone to my street N1, I believed that between Uber and Trip, at least one of them had to be genuine about having tried to Date me. Which I had assumed was Trip, just given by how much his recounting of events aligned with what I would expect from a failed Date and even with what I got to see for myself on N2 (as my N1 PM had a lot more meat to it on account of Headliner (and Goth) Breakin' In). However, I've only started to become more and more confident that Uber had actually tried to Date me, to where I'm now more skeptical of Trip.
Especially so because while I have reason to believe that there is a Something happening with Aria, because of how well Trip's recounting syncs with a failed date, I'm more inclined to believe that he's doing a deception (Vampire-flavored) than I am that Aria is.
After all, while it's always possible for the Headliner to be masquerading as a power role (and also I would love for this happen tbh!), it's safer/more reliable to use a failed Date as an alibi instead.
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Post by Aremypocalypse on Sept 24, 2023 14:47:56 GMT -8
Based on how people have responded so far, I'm leaning back towards reiterating going the safe play and inspecting me today; it helps narrow things down a little, and if people are concerned about the game ending early, well... it's not going to do that, it will just help us out a bit through confirming I'm not fakeclaiming! That being said, regardless of whether or not the vampire converts or how dating goes tonight, I do plan to get into things tomorrow because I feel like it'd be a bit silly to continue this stalemate on day 3!!!! Which goes back to the case where it would be really ideal to have more successful dates than not, since even apart from it being fun, it's also mechanically extremely powerful!!
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Post by Chrysuberths on Sept 24, 2023 15:00:06 GMT -8
For some reason at the time, I thought I’d remembered Quil saying Uber had visited the street he lived on, but now I can’t find that? So idk maybe I made that up?? But anyway, I was confused why Uber was clear despite stating they visited Quil’s street, but I was still sus when I visited a totally different street. But it seems like I probably misremembered or misread anyway so /shrug I completely understand that you now are unsure of this, but it strikes me as very very odd that you would immediately jump to me having visited Quil's street even if you were misremembering things. That's where I think you've revealed too much information, unless last night you visited Quil's street and it was Casket Ave, to me there isn't.I'm glad I reloaded because I was actually going off the assumption that aria had lied and was one of the other casket ave visitors, but since I know my memetic ass is clear I'm gonna formally cast my inspection vote for TripBetween you and trip, aria, I'm more willing to say and believe that I fucked up with your vibes and you're either just a vanilla bean or neutral, neither of which really needs to be proven. And I trust Quil, I think the reasoning brought up about it not being you is sufficient enough to get me to lay off until a conversion happens or Trip turns town. Having nothing to hide, I 100% believe what Quil is saying, unfortunately by the time I arrived at casket ave, all the fun had died down. I don't have any idea who else visited which is sadge, but by the time I got there Quil the only thing I could do was sit on the fire escape as you, idk, just ignored me and my sweet radical 1987 tune.
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Post by terucarus on Sept 24, 2023 15:03:26 GMT -8
oooookay, sorry i've been mia all (irl) day today. was struggling to find the words to contribute.
firstly, hi, Ara! its nice to meet you. welcome to the game!
you had a couple of questions for us to answer. iirc, they were who do i suspect is vamp and who do i suspect is town (one person each, if we were to vote)
and like, i'm with bee: if i suspect someone is Town, i don't want to vote for them. that's potentially outing a player and giving our vamp some free real estate to mess with us. we already know there are 2 people that they want to convert and giving them any more fuel to mess with our Goth is...well, its a bit Much.
as far as who i think we should vote to ex the vamp: Trip. I've been very clear, since early on, that i'm not trusting him. and with what Quil just said above here, i'm even more convinced that i'm Right and HE's our Headliner.
now that's all conjecture w/ no proof whatsoever. am i going to vote him? maybe. i, personally, really want to see more of this game's new mechanics first tho.
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Post by Aremypocalypse on Sept 24, 2023 15:50:45 GMT -8
Cat's out of the bag now it seems, so just to keep it clear: I do, in fact, live on Casket Ave! This means that both Uber and Trip claimed to have been visiting Me on N1. But in other, more important news: I have now officially Waffled, and would actually be much more confident in voting out Trip Today in order to get the Headliner out. Why the change of stance? Glad I asked– Last Night, I actually managed to see Wick Road for myself, though I tried playing dumb about it for a bit to see if I could bait Aria into saying she tried to visit me (a plan I'm abandoning now because of her mention of 'interesting gardening choices', when I live in an apartment building and thus as far as I would know, wouldn't have any/much control over the outside grounds if there even is a garden space out there). Knowing that Aria answered my D1 question with her own street though is in and of itself inconclusive (hence the attempt to bait her into claiming to have targeted me, as that'd be a fairly easy out for a Headliner to take), but this made me suspect that there was Something up, at the very least. In finding out that there was Something going on with Aria, and that Uber & Trip had both claimed having gone to my street N1, I believed that between Uber and Trip, at least one of them had to be genuine about having tried to Date me. Which I had assumed was Trip, just given by how much his recounting of events aligned with what I would expect from a failed Date and even with what I got to see for myself on N2 (as my N1 PM had a lot more meat to it on account of Headliner (and Goth) Breakin' In). However, I've only started to become more and more confident that Uber had actually tried to Date me, to where I'm now more skeptical of Trip. Especially so because while I have reason to believe that there is a Something happening with Aria, because of how well Trip's recounting syncs with a failed date, I'm more inclined to believe that he's doing a deception (Vampire-flavored) than I am that Aria is. After all, while it's always possible for the Headliner to be masquerading as a power role (and also I would love for this happen tbh!), it's safer/more reliable to use a failed Date as an alibi instead. Maybe it's because I've sort of stopped tracking who's on/visited which street, but I'm a bit confused... are you saying that you suspect Trip because of both Uber/Trip visiting you night 1, and you think Uber tried to date you so that means Trip is the vampire, in essence?
Feeling like I'm missing something, but I don't really see why two town couldn't have tried to date you and failed? Maybe you just have a lot of charm!!!
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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 24, 2023 15:58:28 GMT -8
Okay, finally taking a sec to answer Ara's questions
1) Honestly—and I know this is a bit of a hot take—but Uber? I mean...he and Trip are the only ones who visited Quil's house N1 and Uber's last two posts felt a bit...out of nowhere? Plus his defense basically boiled down to "I'm not a strong enough player to take that sort of gamble" (re: claiming staying in). Which doesn't super sit right with me when I know they're actually a pretty good player? And even if you are innocent, Uber, give yourself some more credit <3
2) re: voting someone to prove town...I honestly don't know. I 100% see what Bee et al are saying about how it's basically a roleclaim, etc etc. But in the hypothetical scenario where it's somehow the best possible choice to out a townie, I think I'd still vote Ara? As things stand rn, at least. It feels very circumstantial.
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Post by eurby on Sept 24, 2023 15:59:20 GMT -8
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Post by beex on Sept 24, 2023 16:26:27 GMT -8
Maybe this is just me being full of beans, but if we were gonna do the "wait and see how the game plays out/test other mechanics/witness a conversion" method, it should have been when we were all wavering this morning, not now after we've dumped a metric ton of info in thread lmfao. I can't really see myself not voting today, with what we know now that would feel pretty disingenuous to me. I'll hold off on the vote itself until Trip has time to respond, or rollover gets close, whichever comes first.
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Post by Chrysuberths on Sept 24, 2023 16:49:59 GMT -8
Okay, finally taking a sec to answer Ara's questions 1) Honestly—and I know this is a bit of a hot take—but Uber? I mean...he and Trip are the only ones who visited Quil's house N1 and Uber's last two posts felt a bit...out of nowhere? fair point about my posts seemingly coming out of nowhere, but, counterpoint: I grab onto anything that I find 80% reasonable and I'm 100% certain now that out of the three of us (you, me and trip) trip is 100% the vamp between us if there is one. Jumping around like this is 100% something I'd do right now because my joke n1 play might have actually lead me to being able to piece everything together for myself (somewhat) which would be so funny actually. Also I will be more confident in myself, starting with this, I am 100 billion percent sure trip is the right vote here! I'll find a hat and eat it while you guys throw garlic at me (or another fun way to end a vamp, we can workshop it) if I'm wrong!! I'm so so confident my meme night 1 has actually had a meaningful impact on my own info gathering and theories this game that I am willing to throw myself in front of this bus before I even have a partner this game to prove it
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Post by terucarus on Sept 24, 2023 16:58:34 GMT -8
Maybe this is just me being full of beans, but if we were gonna do the "wait and see how the game plays out/test other mechanics/witness a conversion" method, it should have been when we were all wavering this morning, not now after we've dumped a metric ton of info in thread lmfao. I can't really see myself not voting today, with what we know now that would feel pretty disingenuous to me. I'll hold off on the vote itself until Trip has time to respond, or rollover gets close, whichever comes first. that is a very good point. I cast my vote for Trip
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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 24, 2023 17:09:36 GMT -8
Okay, finally taking a sec to answer Ara's questions 1) Honestly—and I know this is a bit of a hot take—but Uber? I mean...he and Trip are the only ones who visited Quil's house N1 and Uber's last two posts felt a bit...out of nowhere? fair point about my posts seemingly coming out of nowhere, but, counterpoint: I grab onto anything that I find 80% reasonable and I'm 100% certain now that out of the three of us (you, me and trip) trip is 100% the vamp between us if there is one. Jumping around like this is 100% something I'd do right now because my joke n1 play might have actually lead me to being able to piece everything together for myself (somewhat) which would be so funny actually. Also I will be more confident in myself, starting with this, I am 100 billion percent sure trip is the right vote here! I'll find a hat and eat it while you guys throw garlic at me (or another fun way to end a vamp, we can workshop it) if I'm wrong!! I'm so so confident my meme night 1 has actually had a meaningful impact on my own info gathering and theories this game that I am willing to throw myself in front of this bus before I even have a partner this game to prove it lmao hard to argue with that logic I cast my vote for Trip
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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 24, 2023 17:11:30 GMT -8
Oops, for got Trip hasn’t had a chance to respond, but I’ll probably be asleep during rollover anyway, and don’t want to miss out on voting. I’ll leave my vote for now and trust y’all to give Trip a chance 🙏
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Post by eurby on Sept 24, 2023 17:26:54 GMT -8
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