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Post by Otisander on Sept 23, 2023 8:45:27 GMT -8
Like, I’m really sorry if you think that this is ruining the fun or sth. But everyone had already pretty much agreed that it was between me/aria /trip. For me to not ruin any fun at all I will literally have to battle it out with the two of them without claiming ever . Any time. Even up to the point I gets voted out. Literally at any point I claim, it will be the two of them left and it can be resolved.I’m very sorry but this is actually painful for me then, because not only do I have to try to prove my innocence among a bunch of town already suspecting me just for wanting to get straight into action yesterday. I also have to do that with the most difficult way of no claims no visit claims (because I didn’t visit in the first place!). I would also have to basically be half playing against my wincon, if I just never claim up to the point of being voted off.Unless of course, there was a false clear on either Uber or Steex – which is still Possible, because we don't have hard evidence to clear either – which in that case, would make us reveal the roles of Three Townsfolk (yourself claiming + two Inspections) while the Headliner Actual skirts under the radar, free to pick off and/or turn whoever they wish. I'm not quite getting this either, I don't think? You said earlier that you played more aggressively because "if ppl end up pointing at me, I can always just claim", which tells me that you'd already considered that playing more aggressively would, at the very least, be something that Risks drawing sus onto yourself, which you'd only planned on using your roleclaim to counter. Like it sounded like it was your gameplan from the very start to do Exactly This. But then here you are now, acting as if you've been backed into a corner with no other way out and that that's why you claimed, when you kinda did all of that yourself?? Like you could've explained the more go-getter attitude with just wanting to try out a new playstyle (something people were already considering a possibility and one of the reasons why no one had actually been going after you particularly hard), you could've decided Not to play more aggressively if the only way you felt you could defend yourself was a roleclaim, etc. edit: Maybe it's a case of spilled milk I guess, because it can't really be helped anymore, but I'm still left at least a little confused by this overall Lastly, just as a quick aside, I don't think that it's a great mentality to have that 'Not Roleclaiming is (Half) Throwing', especially when we as a group/overall playerbase have been wanting to stop using roleclaims as our Very First line of defense at minimum, with some of us personally wanting to avoid roleclaiming altogether nowadays. edit: Like I know that you brought it up with reference to your own playing, so you weren't Directly going after anybody in particular, but even if it's just the rules you use for You, I think it'd make the game more enjoyable to not put that much pressure on yourself to claim or to consider roleclaiming as an unshakable, end-all-be-all defense – especially because any of our roles could technically be Doubled/Repeated, so that more than one person could have a given role.
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Post by arcania on Sept 23, 2023 8:56:49 GMT -8
I’m sorry for doing that. honestly I think I was a bit irritated from how everyone was shutting me down yesterday — like I really still can’t comprehend why voting is a problem at all when we have a general acknowledgment that it’s not forever clearing etc etc but it passed now idk. I just, when I realised I have to be trying to defend myself all over again because there’s three of us remaining I just, am too tired to do it all. Like, I feel like I’d just get shut down again and i don’t want to do a defend myself defend myself get pushed to nearly going over and then finally claim which sounded like a way to just further irritate. Lao completely honestly when I first thought of claiming and posted it I didn’t realise it leaves only 2 ppl I just wanted to get out of the pool and reduce it— and then after like x hours I suddenly realised hold up that literally resolves everything which was why the second response was like super delayed. I’m really sorry that I made it unfun for everyone, maybe I was a bit too intent on winning and didn’t think straight.
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Post by jijeex on Sept 23, 2023 9:07:21 GMT -8
I've been in the same shoes of tunnel visioning to win so I get it. I don't want this to haunt you for the rest of your life or anything as dramatic as that, but I think it's beneficial for all of us to be conscious of pacing from a grander perspective when we play any sort of game with a strong narrative element.
We may be the players, but think of the GMs too. An easy analogy is to imagine them as chefs of a restaurant where we're dining. If they've gone out of their way to prepare a full 6 course meal for us, it would be a shame for us to leave after eating only 2, no? Especially if it's a newly opened place with a brand spanking menu that we've never seen before!
Let's stay and enjoy the food a little while longer. We can worry about the food coma afterwards lmao.
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Post by Otisander on Sept 23, 2023 9:17:25 GMT -8
We don't have much time left before rollover, and I won't be able to pop in before then due to Work, so...
I will vote for Arcania. Seems to have been a genuine slip-up over anything else, so I don't think Inspecting you will end the game, but rather help Town guarantee for certain that you are not Headliner at the very least (and nothing is lost as Headliner already knows you now). Can even think of it as in the spirit of the first game with harmless misvotes that we use voting somebody out as show of good will/trust towards them.
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Post by jijeex on Sept 23, 2023 9:20:02 GMT -8
Gonna head to bed soon, I'm more or less with Quil here, so let this be my final act for the day phase. I vote for Arcania.
EDIT: Before I go PLEASE COME VISIT ME. What is the point of me surviving if I don't have someone singing to me!!!!! I'm about This Ready to start targeting the GMs for dates if I keep getting no action bc bruh.
Repeating for clarity: I. AM. STAYING. IN. COME SEE ME. P L E A SE
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Post by Otisander on Sept 23, 2023 9:20:56 GMT -8
also I just wanna see what happens, theres like so many possibilities... will we sprinkle some salts on you? Hold up a silver mirror to you and check for if you have a reflection? So many options...
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Post by eurby on Sept 23, 2023 9:25:42 GMT -8
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Post by eurby on Sept 23, 2023 9:43:46 GMT -8
- TEMPORARY DISCUSSION LOCK- (rollover time will be pushed back for however long the lock is in place) thanks for your patience!
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Post by eurby on Sept 23, 2023 19:08:28 GMT -8
arcania has decided to drop out from the game. our newest member, Aremypocalypse will be subbing in! she'll be given all info and night PM results that arca would've had shortly. given all the commotion this day phase, we're immediately granting a 24 hour extension. including the time bank prior to the pause, there are 29 hours left in this day phase. ROLLOVER IS NOW SET FOR 12:00 AM PST TOMORROWara, please introduce yourself (and include what instrument you'd like to use, should you decide to go out dating)! - THREAD IS UNLOCKED, DISCUSSION MAY NOW RESUME -
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Post by Aremypocalypse on Sept 23, 2023 19:15:05 GMT -8
Hi there, I'm Ara!!! Very hyped to play with you all!! I'm not sure what instrument I'd like to use yet, will figure that out before night time!! I'll hold off on saying much for the moment until after I've made sure to read through the rules thoroughly, but in the meantime, I'll continue to uphold my slot's medium claim!!! Back shortly, will be aroundish until rollover as well!!!
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Post by Otisander on Sept 23, 2023 19:29:38 GMT -8
important question for the game: What are your pronouns? (Makes discussion easier to read, but also and more importantly is to show Proper Respects. We all have our pronouns in the Discord server in the #preferred-pronouns channel, but for easier reference: I am Quillip/Quil, and my pronouns are it/he (and my ping is @/onse if you need it))
edit: also hyped to see you here, and loving your energy already, I'm a sucker for repeated exclamation marks. The joyous whimsy levels are going off the charts and I'm here for that
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Post by beex on Sept 23, 2023 19:33:19 GMT -8
What a pickle you've dropped into, lmao, hi Ara! Eure used "she" for you, but I just wanna double check what your preferred pronouns are, if u don't mind? I totally understand where the suggestion to vote Arca came from and that it totally made/makes sense in the context of what's going on rn, but I just don't really love it? Especially now that it's Not Arca, it just doesn't feel super good to me. It seems to me like we kinda have two game path options before us, we can Not really go for anything or try to figure anything out today and let the game keep going and potentially have a conversion, or we can keep deducing, with the knowledge that the pool is already pretty shallow. I get that having the game end so quickly is not what any of us intended or wanted necessarily, but idk, if it's a legitimate end through deduction (and not just, like, mass claiming or smth) isn't that just kinda how the game plays out occasionally? I'm just torn about like Not working towards a win just to extend the game? y'know? but I'll go whichever way the majority decides, I'm not trying to ruin anyone's game e: QUIL. Mom said it's my turn with the brain cell!!! lmfao
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Post by Otisander on Sept 23, 2023 19:53:16 GMT -8
Speaking of that! Right, I retract my vote from Arcania/Arapocalypse. It does feel poor form to have the newcomer be thrown immediately onto the Inspection Block, and with the phase getting such a generous extension, I see no reason in keeping my vote there.
I'm now fine with abstaining Today if things still seem inconclusive. And about that... I'm honestly also torn as well tbh, because like. On the one hand I do really want to see the conversion hijinks, maybe even one of the new roles getting used, but on the other I want to be trying my best for a Town win regardless (and also I feel kinda bad for the Goth a little... two back-to-back saves on both Nights so far and the reward is mostly that everybody just gets cold feet?).
There's always the chance that in Trying to deduce more, we end up getting bamboozled by the Headliner and feeling like we have to start analyzing from scratch? But I don't know...
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Post by 3ptali on Sept 23, 2023 20:07:07 GMT -8
i'm not gonna name names yet or anything, but is it preferable for a town power role to lie and say they tried to date and failed, or to say they stayed in and didn't go out? one of those is harder to prove (failed to date), but one of those is a hell of a lie (stayed in) if someone then visits that person. and finds they are out. edit: so i don't have 5 posts w/ thoughts in a row idk if i fully trust that med claim, especially since there's no one to communicate with to get info one way or the other /shrug edit2: first part of post & second part of post are unrelated but one becomes more un/likely if the other is true/false
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Post by jijeex on Sept 23, 2023 20:16:52 GMT -8
Yeah sure, I'll abstain since we have a sub in so I retract my vote.
In any other situation I would love this early advantage that town has and move to push aggressively, but like. New mode. One (1) single opponent. When's the next time we get to play with the vampires format again? Again, I'm all for playing for wincon, love what the Goth has going on here, but winning and stomping are not the same thing, and only one of them is actually fun.
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