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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 22, 2023 16:06:57 GMT -8
Quil laid it out a number of posts back so feel free to read back if you're lost, Uber, but right now Headliner is between Trip, Aria, and Arca--unless someone did a very Big Bold Lie, which is possible, but less likely than those three. I have some Thoughts(tm) and Feelings(tm) but I'd like to hear from our 3 Musketeers and also see what Teru was percolating, whenever it's all hot & ready. Well...I know I've been a bit quiet this game, I can't deny that. I've been very busy IRL and I think something about the Dating Math is not really clicking in my head? Plus I haven't had any successful dates, and I'm having a hard time getting a good read on anyone? Up until now, I haven't really had any solid theories, so I didn't want to waste valuable discussion time bringing them up. I feel like this is pretty much in line with my behavior in tbn, too, where I kept my thoughts and theories to myself (and Quill) until a few days in. But since I don't really have much else to contribute, I guess I can go through my thought process on a few things? If nothing else, maybe y'all can help me sort through my own brain lol Potential Scheming?Tbh my first thought when Quill Goth-Save-Claimed was "Is he telling the truth?" because if there's anyone who'd withhold a kill/conversion N1 to fake a save and make himself look innocent, it's Quil. But I quickly threw out this theory because, well...it's not really a plan that holds water? He'd have to gamble that there was no Goth in this game—or at least that Goth wouldn't call them out as soon as he fake-claimed—and that just...doesn't seem like a smart thing to bank on? Plus his behavior in general just seems very townie. So I didn't bother mentioning this theory. Tonal Weirdness There are a few tonal things that pinged me as odd, too, though not more than everyone else. Like Stella seems a little...confused? Which is fair. I'm also confused lol. And like other people mentioned, Arca came out with a lot of Force, which also seems out of character for them.
But considering how we just had a big discussion about tone and allowing people to experiment and practicing our communication skills, I wanted to err on the side of caution because I really don't wanna accidentally punish people for putting into practice the things we talked about? Plus, in Arca's case, they seemed pretty busy the past few games (iirc) and maybe this style is more normal for them?
Street Names We haven't received confirmation that street names are unique to each player (and the DM even refused to comment on whether or not this is the case), and I feel like?? That might be important??? But idk how.
Okay maybe more later I'm suddenly gonna barf
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Post by terucarus on Sept 22, 2023 16:45:15 GMT -8
lets do a breakdown here of each player and how *I* personally feel about them in the context of this game.
Taylor - we have met face-to-face both nights now. i currently trust them with my life. you dont have to believe me. frankly, i dont care if you do or dont.
bee - was allegedly attacked last night and has no reason to lie about it as far as i can tell at this moment. so i'm loosely going to trust them. also, RNG cannot be so evil as to make them evil 3 times in a row -- that would be insane. not impossible! just insane.
quil - was allegedly attacked night one and, again, has no reason to lie about it. i have no reason to not trust them, even less (meaning, i trust them more) than bee at this moment.
uber - honestly, i have nothing on you right now. no gut reads. no feels. you're like, a perfectly neutral read rn and that is either super clever or super dangerous or both.
steex - has been very back-seat oriented and they have survived TWO dating nights, which historically has NEVER happened before. now, its a new group (as in, we're older and different people than we were when last we played a dating game), so it is possible that people are letting them do their thing and date. which is fair. i am, however, going to keep my eye on them as best i can.
arca - you are one of two things to me rn and one of them is the headliner. you are aggressive in a way that i haven't seen from you in a long while, and maybe we can chalk that up to the last couple of games being weird/you not being there. i'll give grace, again, as we are different people from past games now, but you are still on my "not nice" list.
aria - i understand isn't feeling well and is very busy IRL, so things arent smooth and buttery for her right now. i'm not giving her a pass, but i am gonna say, you're also on the "not nice" side of things.
trip - i think i made myself very clear yesterday that i got bad juju from trip. all of his posts, however, have been very in-line with Town!Trip posts. so i'm not sure if this is a case of teru's Gutdar malfunctioning (a rare occurrence) or trip being very clever with his words, which is not out of the realm of possibilities. i still think you're the HL, but i have no proof.
....i think that's everyone, not counting myself.
i have more thoughts, but i'm gonna need some time to get those organized.
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Post by Chrysuberths on Sept 22, 2023 17:43:38 GMT -8
I have very quickly caught up with the thread, throw my sus on taylor out completely. As a very single pringle™ this game the idea that taylor had gotten a successful date had not crossed my mind at all mfndbshsjdbfnf. Taylor you have officially joined the list of official 'is not headliner, thus cannot be bad until a conversion happens" group along with quil, teru, and bee.
edit: i autofinished to the wrong word oops
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Post by 3ptali on Sept 22, 2023 19:15:59 GMT -8
Ariyeli any reason in particular you asked about multiple people/one street? or did it pop up randomly
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Post by jijeex on Sept 22, 2023 19:55:44 GMT -8
My feeling on 3p/Aria/Arca hasn't changed, but the same goes for what I think is a better game experience. It does feel a bit weird cycling around back to our play pattern from 5 years back - that is, "we don't have enough info yet so let's not do anything rash", but I still think it's the right thing to do. Totally new game mode and we've barely seen anything exciting happen. I don't feel like pushing anything or anyone too hard yet.
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Post by stellamalke on Sept 22, 2023 20:23:54 GMT -8
I have very quickly caught up with the thread, throw my sus on taylor out completely. As a very single pringle™ this game the idea that taylor had gotten a successful date had not crossed my mind at all mfndbshsjdbfnf. Taylor you have officially joined the list of official 'is not headliner, thus cannot be bad until a conversion happens" group along with quil, teru, and bee.
edit: i autofinished to the wrong word oops
Uber I'm just cackling at this image I've got of you seeing me as the gal from Never Been Kissed when it's really more of a Marshall and Lily sitch with me and Teru 😂 but I'm grateful to be off your sus list. And whoever said it is right - I'm super confused! I'm not picking up on the subtleties at all AND I'm forgetting silly little details like that the goth isn't the doctor.
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Post by stellamalke on Sept 22, 2023 20:25:56 GMT -8
On the topic of the Trip/Aria/Arca triad of possibilities, I really don't know if I buy that we'd have this sussed out so early. That's starting to give be the vibes of a certain narrative being pushed in order to buy a headliner time.
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Post by beex on Sept 22, 2023 20:55:30 GMT -8
Well, with only one (1) vampire, dating to account for some verifiable town actions, and Goth successfully protecting 2 nights in a row, that does narrow the suspect pool down pretty dramatically; I'm not really sure how that could be a Headliner Ploy. You and Teru met each other while the Headliner was off doing Headliner things, so neither of you are the Headliner. Both Quil and I were attacked with intent to convert, so neither of us is the Headliner. Steex and Uber could technically still be the Headliner, they aren't hard-cleared by any means, but they claimed "stayed in with no visitors" in a dating game where everyone and anyone could potentially refute that if untrue, so that would be a bold falsehood. Therefore, that leaves Trip, Aria, and Arca as the ones with the least alibi/highest probability of vampitude. Is there any of that that you disagree with or find fault with? I am genuinely curious. If you feel that Steex or Uber are higher on the sus list, feel free to say so. Or, I guess, if you think Quil and/or I am lying, that's your prerogative.
For my part, I get where Steex is coming from but it puts me in the same bind Quil was in yesterday, which is, yknow, suboptimal. I feel like we've narrowed the field, and that a vote today wouldn't be nearly as much of a reach as yesterday.
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Post by Otisander on Sept 22, 2023 21:00:09 GMT -8
On the topic of the Trip/Aria/Arca triad of possibilities, I really don't know if I buy that we'd have this sussed out so early. That's starting to give be the vibes of a certain narrative being pushed in order to buy a headliner time. With four players presumably cleared of being Headliner already based off of Night reporting though (myself based off N1 convert!saveclaim, yourself & Teru based off face-to-face dates both Nights, Bee w/ N2 convert!saveclaim), if they're not within the triad then it's between Steex and Uber, which I'm really uncertain of still? I suppose that either could have lied about having stayed home alone, but... I just don't know right now. edit: me and Bee are sharing a brain cell right now www
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Post by beex on Sept 22, 2023 21:20:24 GMT -8
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Post by arcania on Sept 22, 2023 22:31:04 GMT -8
I agree that headliner is likely trip/aria.
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Post by arcania on Sept 22, 2023 22:34:08 GMT -8
I claim medium
Sorry if this ends up being bad move/not supposed to be done. I just don’t see any point in keeping it secret when we have literally narrowed it down to us three.
I’ve already contacted the npc. Nobody is dying any time soon because headliner still can’t convert anyone. I have basically fulfilled my mission and the last bit of use is in clearing me and further narrowing down the pool.
Counterclaim me now if anyone wants to.
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Post by arcania on Sept 22, 2023 22:35:51 GMT -8
See I teally wanted us to just vote someone because as a power role, I know I’ll be exposed by D2 if we just keep weeding out those who managed to date.
Also kinda because I was power role, I didn’t mind being more aggressive because if ppl end up pointing at me instead, I can always just claim.
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Post by stellamalke on Sept 22, 2023 22:38:03 GMT -8
I agree that headliner is likely trip/aria. But That's really not much of an argument against it being you either Arca 😓 And honestly I'm gonna be dead honest. I'm pretty sure like, Teru, Quil, and me are the only people I trust so far to be fully telling the truth. Bee claiming vamp convert would be the biggest play ever but I also agree that I don't think RNG would make them evil three games in a row. Steex could be though, all the talk about unsuccessful dates sticks out a little. Anyway, I am a big hmmm today but I would totally vote to inspect, most likely Arca or Trip at this point.
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Post by beex on Sept 22, 2023 23:12:34 GMT -8
I'm honestly somewhat miffed that y'all are all for believing Quil's Goth save but not mine? Tf lmao
Anyway, wowee, we're really wildin' out here huh. Setting aside the fact that Medium is more or less an unverifiable claim (unless I'm forgetting something, which is Possible,) it seems a bit precipitous to have claimed this early, but tbh it fits with the super aggro playstyle you've been rolling with this game. I don't really agree with your thought process at all wrt how the game would proceed and what was necessary at any point, but what I will say is that you have played consistently with what you've said and done, you haven't contradicted yourself--so while I disagree with you pretty much across the board, I honestly don't find it particularly sus. I don't see what it could hurt anymore, so maybe some flavor to back up the med claim, if no one else thinks that's an awful idea?
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