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Post by jijeex on Sept 22, 2023 11:48:20 GMT -8
Kinda goes without saying, but if Bee is Not being truthful about the save, then they would be Headliner. Unsure if this is a smart move to go for though because if everyone believes Headliner tried to date/receive a visitor, then it provides equal or even Better opportunity to frame other players without posing direct risk of being caught themself after Town finds out their lie via process of elimination. Like, yeah it would take about 2-3 Days to catch, but in that time, the Headliner would only be able to try to Convert one player (2:7), and then Maybe kill (2:6), just because that'd help their numbers best (very little use in upgrading a Groupie if the Headliner is likely to be killed the following Day or potentially that very Night if Metalhead shenanigans occur), and then at that point they'd get got and leave a solo Screamer to rep the Coven in a 1:6 game – which obviously isn't a good position to be in. Thus, I'm inclined to be(e)lieve in Bee's be(e)ing saved by the Goth. Never mind all the number games, considering we already have a previous Goth save in the form of You, if Bee is a fake saveclaiming Headliner they would get outed immediately by the resident Goth, and there would be no reason not to out them since there's only one vampire at the moment.
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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 22, 2023 12:05:24 GMT -8
Stox’s point reminds me… @quillip never said whether or not Uber or I visited the street they lived on
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Post by Ariyeli on Sept 22, 2023 12:06:00 GMT -8
Stox’s point reminds me… @quillip never said whether or not Uber or I visited the street they lived on Apparently mobile won’t let me tag players??
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Post by Otisander on Sept 22, 2023 12:09:55 GMT -8
There being only one vampire could arguably be seen as reason not to counterclaim in and of itself, depending on who the Goth actually is though (and we technically can't guarantee that there's only one Goth at play either). If the game ends D2 by a power role going 'nuh uh' and then the rest of Town killing a lone Dracula because of that, it could feel a little... underwhelming? Plus you'd already Mentioned how the threat of counterclaiming made it a too-risky move for the Headliner to be making at this point, so I figured it'd be more worthwhile to use/address a second perspective in my own vouching.
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Post by Otisander on Sept 22, 2023 12:24:04 GMT -8
Stox’s point reminds me… @quillip never said whether or not Uber or I visited the street they lived on I didn't think it was worth disclosing Yesterday, as anyone could've chosen to swing on by my place to see where I lived if they so wanted, and with Uber's claim of staying in & going unvisited despite a higher risk of receiving a visit and without info to suggest that they had Not been visited by anyone, makes me believe that they aren't the Headliner. For what it's worth though, I don't live on Wick Road, so wherever you claimed to be N1 wasn't anywhere near my crib. edit: And to be clear, I'm with Taylor on wanting to hear at least a bit more about what your N2 was like since you haven't elaborated on that yet. My apologies if you did spend your Date action on visiting me for the sake of getting my location down for yourself wwww
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Post by Chrysuberths on Sept 22, 2023 12:43:52 GMT -8
Uber's claim of staying in & going unvisited despite a higher risk of receiving a visit and without info to suggest that they had Not been visited by anyone, makes me believe that they aren't the Headliner. I am unable to comprehend quite what you mean by "without info to suggest that they had Not been visited by anyone" so if you could clarify a little just for me I'd appreciate it 100% tysm, I don't wanna waste space or time by trying to disprove something that you weren't actually trying to say when I know you're not the HL and have other people I think are. However based on the rest of this post and your previous one, I'm glad you agree that I'm not headliner, because without a conversion you're still on my good egg list, and bee is being added to that as well, because while I was puppy with bee last game where they did amazing and played super well, I do not think lying here about a goth save is anywhere close to the right or smart choice, so I really cannot see Bee making that play as of now. I am also side eyeing arca and aria + taylor just a wee bit. Aria and (especially) Taylor moreso from a lack of posting and/or substance I feel is in their posts but that sus on Taylor was also lessened somewhat this day phase, it could go back to a more suspicious vibe later depending on how the day rolls though.
Unlike Arca, who I'm sorry, but something in my gut just does not sit all the way right with how you've been posting. It feels almost a little too aggressive almost? Like not in anyway where I think you need to change your wording or anything to help with the mood of the game, you're not coming across to me as angry or upset don't worry, you just seem a little, too much? I don't know exactly how to put it, you just seem very active and I'm not sure it's in a town way because of how I'm perceiving the tone of some of your posts.
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Post by Otisander on Sept 22, 2023 13:03:34 GMT -8
What I mean is that, if you were Lying about having stayed in, you wouldn't have been able to know that nobody visited you because most people had not said where they went at that point, yanno? Which makes it a risky claim that could be called out by potentially Anybody in the game right now.
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Post by 3ptali on Sept 22, 2023 13:12:13 GMT -8
re: bee-as-headliner-fakeclaiming-goth-save - this doesn't rly make sense as a play, unless we have multiple goths running around? if hl claims they were gothed successfully, and goth did not in fact save anyone from conversion, that's an easy win for town.
before i run off to do this myself, has anyone made a list so far of everyone's night reports? if not, i'll doctor one up and throw it in here, so it's easier to keep track of in between content posts
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Post by 3ptali on Sept 22, 2023 13:34:53 GMT -8
also. question to ponder for the masses. would our goth, upon successfully being notified that their nightly target did in fact get targeted by a vamp, post about it in the thread? or would they have kept it quiet to see who else knew? 🤔
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Post by 3ptali on Sept 22, 2023 14:02:34 GMT -8
ok ok ok ok wait hold on wait ok im glad i reread the entire thread hold on
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Post by 3ptali on Sept 22, 2023 14:05:02 GMT -8
Chrysuberths why the taylor sus? they're clear from being headliner by virtue of being the only successful dater of 2 total successes (taylor + teru) from n1. unless i'm misunderstanding what "pleasant" & "lovely" night meant?
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Post by beex on Sept 22, 2023 14:49:59 GMT -8
Stox’s point reminds me… @quillip never said whether or not Uber or I visited the street they lived on Apparently mobile won’t let me tag players?? I don't think it's mobile, Quil's ping is just @/onse , so you're 2/2 on players whose names don't match their ping lmfao
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Post by terucarus on Sept 22, 2023 14:51:28 GMT -8
i mean, cats out of the bag. taylor and i successfully dated twice now.
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Post by terucarus on Sept 22, 2023 14:59:49 GMT -8
also. question to ponder for the masses. would our goth, upon successfully being notified that their nightly target did in fact get targeted by a vamp, post about it in the thread? or would they have kept it quiet to see who else knew? 🤔 my guess is they would have kept it close to the chest. but that's what i would do, if i were the goth.
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Post by beex on Sept 22, 2023 15:03:41 GMT -8
Quil laid it out a number of posts back so feel free to read back if you're lost, Uber, but right now Headliner is between Trip, Aria, and Arca--unless someone did a very Big Bold Lie, which is possible, but less likely than those three.
I have some Thoughts(tm) and Feelings(tm) but I'd like to hear from our 3 Musketeers and also see what Teru was percolating, whenever it's all hot & ready.
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